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Hey all just a post saying I'm still alive. I've been looking for Parts to add some detail to the canal.

South Africa Does not seem to even know what Plastic canvas is the closest thing that anyone has mentioned it a thing called "waste canvas" but will have to see if that is the same thing.

Some good news I have found a thing called "self adhesive mesh drywall tape" which I might be able to use in its place, but if it doesn't work out the stuff looks good to add detail to plasticard or as a straight flooring.

self adhesive mesh drywall tape

I'll try find some time to give this stuff a try and will let you know how it goes.


Leyzer said:

South Africa Does not seem to even know what Plastic canvas is

If you can't find it, you can order it online from any craft supplier that sells Darice products.

Leyzer said:

Some good news I have found a thing called "self adhesive mesh drywall tape"

That stuff is great for some things, but it won't support weight like plastic canvas; it's not stiff, it's flexible like tape. If you need rigid grating, look for hardware cloth. Hardware cloth is wire screen in larger meshes than window screening. In SA, it might be called "wire cloth", "wire mesh", or various similar terms. A 4 to 8 mesh hardware cloth is the functional equivalent to plastic canvas.


Completed the bridges for my Canal project. Using Plasticard, foam core, and "Self Adheisve dry wall tape" (SAWT). I really like the way they came out, I just need to add some extra details on the bridges and actual canal so almost done.

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I started off with plasticard for the base with 2 small walk ways for infantry and 1 much wider walkway for large vehicles.

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I applied the SAWT and cut 2 pieces of foamcore about 1" high by 5" long these would be used as the railings of the Walkway. I cut strips of plasticard (25mm x 5mm) and super glued them evenly spaced apart from each other onto the foamcore strips. Before gluing the foamcore onto the base plasticard, I applied a layer of PVA glue over the exposed foam to protect it from the super glue. Once that was dry I glued the railings to the bridge section.

Before Cutting the strips

The cut stips 25mm x 5mm ready to get glued to the foamcore.

First bridge done

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I used the same process to do the bigger bridge the only difference is the size of the plasticard floor which required more strips of SAWT.

Starting the Bigger bridge

After adding the SAWT to the plasticard

The 3 bridges built

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The bridges built and showing where they would go onto the canal.


Leyzer said:

I really like the way they came out

Me too. The SAWT on the plasticard is a great solution. I like the texture it creates and it should paint-up nicely. The bridges have a perfect box trestle look.

Leyzer said:

I just need to add some extra details on the bridges and actual canal so almost done.

Maybe some edge protectors for the bridges and some rip-rap for the canal. Or maybe you could add some rivets or something. Weeds?

Looks great! This will be a pretty epic piece when finished.


Tob said:

Maybe some edge protectors for the bridges and some rip-rap for the canal. Or maybe you could add some rivets or something. Weeds?

Thanks for the reply

Ya I was thinking of putting a piece of plasticard across the tops of the railings.

I didn't think of the rivets thing I'll try that thanks

I've made some sewer entrances for in the canal I'll post the pics tomorrow.




Hi Layzer,

Can you let me/us know how you want to do your water? Reason I ask is that I am doing my own canal boards and don't know what to do.

Dirty green/brown

Clean blue/green

Resin/PVA/Paint/crunched up foil?

What do you use for water effects?




kropotkin303 said:

Hi Layzer,

Can you let me/us know how you want to do your water? Reason I ask is that I am doing my own canal boards and don't know what to do.

Dirty green/brown

Clean blue/green

Resin/PVA/Paint/crunched up foil?

What do you use for water effects?

I think I'll go for a Dirty green/brown almost toxic color

I was thinking of using
I bought when i had more money then brains

But I don't think I have enough so I'll have to do some research and testing

The PVA glue seems to work well, might try it or the Resin




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Using a Pill container to make a sewer entrance.I cut the lid and bottom of the container off and smoothed off any edges. I then used the Self adhesive dry wall tape to add the bars. I put drops of super glue to secure the mesh down.

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Different sized Pill containers

Showing scale

Adding some broken grid

I decided to add some bent and broken grid to show that someone or something has come out or gone into it before.

To show the scale of the grids

I prestiked the grids into place or at least where I am thinking they will go.

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I'm pretty proud of how it looks even with out paint

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Leyzer said:

I decided to add some bent and broken grid to show that someone or something has come out or gone into it before.

Very cool. Applause

As for your water, what you use might depend on how deep you want your water. PVA is OK for making wet areas, but since it's mostly water it has a few issues. It takes awhile to dry and it shrinks A LOT. The shrinkage can cause problems; warping or bending walls. PVA also tends to dry milky or cloudy when it's really thick. One of those things where each layer just adds murk. Can be good, can be bad depending on what you're after.

Resin cures mighty clear, but has its own issues. Expense usually being #1. It also likes to creep into places where it's unwanted, but if everything is sealed well the results are worth the hassle. Resin requires some attention to detail in the measuring, mixing and pouring, but again worth it if done right.

I've never used WS Realistic Water, so I can't give you the pros and cons of it, but maybe someone else will jump in here.


I have gotten a "good enough" look for murky water by painting a flat surface with varying shades and striations, then going over the whole thing with several thick layers of brush-on gloss varnish. It doesn't look nearly as good as a lot of the more time and labor intensive methods, but it works great for a solid, easy-to-use gaming surface, and you can still tell what it is supposed to be.


After some googling I came across "floor polyurethane" Has anyone had any experience with it?


So I did some more work on the bridges this weekend. Adding some finishing touches to the edges of the railings. The cuts aren't as neat as I wanted but are close enough and it just proves how important measuring and planning is.

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The edging is just plasticard cut to the right size 0.6cm wide by the length of the railing.

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I realized that I had some icecream stick sort of things, I had bought a while back. i could have used them since they were the correct width and long enough. I'll use them next time.

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Now all I need to do is add some gravel and dirt build up... I don't know how but will have to look into it, And then paint it.
I might try make a damaged version of the bigger bridge doesn't seem like it will be too hard.


canal sprayed black

So after a very long break from this project, I decided I needed to at least get it painted so this past weekend I went out bought some Matt Black spray paint and did some painting.

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Since the polystyrene was covered in a layer of sand and PVA glue it was easy to spray paint the canal with out worrying about the spray eating the polystyrene. I sprayed it then realized I had forgotten to add the meshed pipes. I then decided it needed a bit more detail. the smaller blue pipes were made from cutting the bottom off a permanent marker lid. I then cut that circle in half to get the look of a drain pipe half submerged.

Generic Permanent marker

I had some thick straw that I cut small rings off of to get the look of pipes coming out of the wall of the canal. I attached all the details using hot glue.

Pipes and grids

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I'm glad I could finally get it near completion.


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So here I've sprayed the foam/Bridges black and I was halfway through drybrushing the terrain with the dark gray paint.

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I still need to do some final highlighting and detailing but its good enough to play on.

Scorpions on the hunt

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Above you can see the canal on the board where it would be used. I think it is a bit darker then the board I prefer the darker colour so even tho it doesn't match 100%. How do you think it looks?

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I just need to work out how to do the water effect in the actual canal and once that is done I think this piece will look very good.
Any suggestions on what else this piece needs or what pieces that could be added on top of it to add to the look?


Leyzer said:

I prefer the darker colour so even tho it doesn't match 100%. How do you think it looks?

Looks great! Once you do some final highlighting on the dark parts and maybe do a dark wash on the light parts, the overall tone will be more homogeneous.

Leyzer said:

Any suggestions on what else this piece needs or what pieces that could be added on top of it to add to the look?

This whole project turned out pretty cool. I like that big bridge with the grating floor. Personally I don't think it needs much else, just a little more drybrush highlighting and maybe some rust on the metal parts. Once you install the water, you could add some drips coming out of all the pipes. You could also get creative with any flotsam/junk in the canal. Good place for rats or ducks (possibly mutated) too. If you have a morbid streak, a burning ghat might be appropriate.

I don't really know the context of this canal, so I don't know if benches, trash cans, or lightposts would be appropriate. I mean, if this was a canal in the middle of a city park you'd see that kind of stuff. Also possibly fences or railings to prevent people from falling in. Graffiti is also an option.

Once you have the water in, you'll think of other details. Can't wait to see it finished!

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